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Project Name
Land Development Code Revisions to 6.3.3, Fire Protection and Wildfire Mitigation
Description
Revisions to remove Fire Marhsal
Location
Applicant
El Paso County
Mindy Madden
(719) 520-6300
Mindy Madden
(719) 520-6300
File Number
LDC201
Project Manager
Nina Ruiz
Status
Closed
Created
7/21/2020 6:44:58 AM

View: Project Documents



Review Comments (61)

Link Agency Comment
County Attorney - Development Review
1/6/2021 12:19:09 PM
No additional comments. 1/6/2021 12:19:09 PM
Falcon Fire Protection District
12/30/2020 11:18:17 AM
No additional comments 12/30/2020 11:18:17 AM
Colorado Springs Public Works
12/30/2020 7:08:41 AM
no comments 12/30/2020 7:08:41 AM
Teller County Planning
12/29/2020 10:33:38 AM
The Teller County Planning Department appreciates the opportunity to comment. The Department has no comments other than the proposed changes appear to provide a more definitive process using appropriate resources for your Plan. 12/29/2020 10:33:38 AM
View Woodmoor Water and Sanitation District
12/24/2020 9:19:52 AM
Woodmoor Water & sanitation District No 1 has two minor comments in Section 6.3.3.C.c.:

1. How is "dead-end main" defined in the context of this code?
2. Regarding easements: Both water authorities and fire authorities will need access - would it make sense to change "or" to "and" in Section 6.3.3.C.c.viii?
12/24/2020 9:19:52 AM
Ellicott Fire Protection District
12/22/2020 6:08:34 PM
No objections 12/22/2020 6:08:34 PM
Pikes Peak Regional Building Department
12/22/2020 2:59:25 PM
Enumerations has no comment. 12/22/2020 2:59:25 PM
View El Paso County Conservation Dist
12/21/2020 8:35:09 AM
12/21/2020 8:35:09 AM
Northern EPC Coalition of Community Organizations, Inc. (NEPCO)
12/20/2020 12:59:31 PM
NEPCO once again reiterates the following issue that was not specifically dealt with during the latest re-write of this Code section.
1. Section 6.3.3. uses the term “approval authority” 12 times in its revision, yet it does not define who the approval authority is.
2. Under the Land Development Code, Section 1.15 Definitions: Approval Authority -- The PCD Director, the BoCC, Planning Commission, Board of Adjustment, El Paso County Engineering Criteria Manual (ECM) Administrator, Building Official, or other person or agency, depending on the type of development permit or decision specified by State Statute or this Code, sanctioned to make a final decision approving, denying or conditionally approving the development permit or other requested action.
3. Therefore, what person/position is specified by State Statute or this Code and sanctioned to make a final decision approving, denying, or conditionally approving the 12 decisions in Section 6.3.3.?

Although the El Paso County employees/staffers may assume that they know who the approval authority is for various actions, the members of the public for which the Code is written, certainly do not. Therefore, please address in this Code section, either generally or specifically, who the Approval Authority is under State Statute or Code, and/or how one tells who the Approval Authority is when there is no State Statute or Code that appears to delegate such authority. Thank you.
12/20/2020 12:59:31 PM
Tri-Lakes-Monument Fire Protection District
12/18/2020 10:30:23 AM
Thank you and we have no additional comments. JCB 12/18/2020 10:30:23 AM
Academy SD 20 Building Fund
12/18/2020 8:54:14 AM
Academy District 20 is in receipt of file number LDC201.

The District has no comment regarding the proposed changes.

If you need additional information, please contact me.

Don Smith
Planning Consultant
12/18/2020 8:54:14 AM
Calhan Fire Protection District
12/17/2020 6:00:08 PM
Calhan FPD Has no objections or comments.

Shane Gattis
Chief
CFPD
12/17/2020 6:00:08 PM
Schriever AFB
12/17/2020 4:31:12 PM
Schriever AFB has no concerns or comments. 12/17/2020 4:31:12 PM
Cimarron Hills Fire
12/17/2020 1:45:42 PM
I have reviewed the document for public hearing and I will plan on watching remotely. If I am needed to provide any comments I will otherwise, I will only watch. J.T. McLeod, Division Chief Fire and Life Safety, Cimarron Hills Fire Dept. 12/17/2020 1:45:42 PM
Tri-Lakes-Monument Fire Protection District
11/3/2020 9:22:14 AM
No additional comments. JCB 11/3/2020 9:22:14 AM
Falcon Fire Protection District
11/2/2020 2:38:40 PM
no additional comments 11/2/2020 2:38:40 PM
Black Forest Land Use Committee
10/29/2020 5:44:48 AM
The Black Forest Land Use Committee has no inputs for this revision. 10/29/2020 5:44:48 AM
Pikes Peak Regional Building Department
10/27/2020 1:14:35 PM
no comment 10/27/2020 1:14:35 PM
Academy SD 20 Building Fund
10/26/2020 7:46:48 AM
Academy District 20 is in receipt of file LDC201 and has no comment.

If you need additional information, please contact me.

Don Smith
Planning Consultant
719-234-1222
10/26/2020 7:46:48 AM
View El Paso County Conservation Dist
10/21/2020 2:02:23 PM
10/21/2020 2:02:23 PM
View County Attorney - Development Review
10/20/2020 2:38:06 PM
County Attorney comments are attached. 10/20/2020 2:38:06 PM
Northern EPC Coalition of Community Organizations, Inc. (NEPCO)
10/20/2020 12:09:27 PM
NEPCO reiterates the following 3 items that were not specifically dealt with during the latest re-write of this Code section. We also add one new comment below.
1. Section 6.3.3. uses the term “approval authority” 12 times in its revision, yet it does not define who the approval authority is.
2. Under the Land Development Code, Section 1.15 Definitions: Approval Authority -- The PCD Director, the BoCC, Planning Commission, Board of Adjustment, El Paso County Engineering Criteria Manual (ECM) Administrator, Building Official, or other person or agency, depending on the type of development permit or decision specified by State Statute or this Code, sanctioned to make a final decision approving, denying or conditionally approving the development permit or other requested action.
3. Therefore, what person/position is specified by State Statute or this Code and sanctioned to make a final decision approving, denying, or conditionally approving the 12 decisions in Section 6.3.3.?

Although the Town of Monument employees/staffers may assume that they know who the approval authority is for various actions, the members of the public for which the Code is written, certainly do not. Therefore, please address in this Code section, either generally or specifically, who the Approval Authority is under State Statute or Code, and/or how one tells who the Approval Authority is when there is no State Statute or Code that appears to delegate such authority. Thank you.
10/20/2020 12:09:27 PM
Ellicott Fire Protection District
10/20/2020 9:31:14 AM
I have reviewed the revised Chapter 6 of the El Paso County Land Development Code and discussed my previous comments with Nina Ruiz. At this time I do not have and objections with the revised land development code changes. I do have some comments and notes from our discussion.

Definition-

The definition of Fire Authority: The way it is revised does not change the way the code is used or interpreted. We did discuss that the Fire Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ) is a commonly used term and definition. It is suggested that this term and definition be considered for future revisions. However, whether or not this was use as the definition would not change the intent of the land development code.

6.3.3 Fire Protection and Wildfire Mitigation
A(3) Relationship to Other Standards.

This section seamed to put the codes at odds. However, after review this section seeks alternatives from the Fire Authority and recommendations if such alternatives meet the intent of Chapter 6 of the Land Development Code and the Fire Code. Per our conversation this section does not diminish the authority of the Fire District or Fire Chief under C.R.S. 32-1-1002.

6.3.3 Fire Protection and Wildfire Mitigation
A(4) Responsibility of Fire Authority.

“It is the responsibility of the Fire Authority to provide recommendations as to whether a new development meets the applicable fire code standards for the respective area.”

I agree with this section. The next section is also correct however, it may not be how we practice the implementation of the code.

“If a new development does not meet the applicable standards, then the fire authority should provide comments regarding areas of non-compliance and recommendations for achieving compliance.”

I believe that the developer should also be given the option of how to meet the intent of the code through alternative design. If unable or unwilling to do so then the Fire Authority would make recommendations on how to meet the intent of the code. There should be some agreement prior to approval by the Board of County Commissioners. This is simply a difference in how we use the code to ensure compliance. This meets the general intent of both codes however we may look at revising this in the future.

6.3.3 Fire Protection and Wildfire Mitigation
C Design Standard
(1)Water Supply
(b) Automatic Fire Protection

This is the only section we discussed that requires a change. It should read:

Automatic Fire Protection shall be in compliance with the adopted PPRBD Regional Building Code and/or applicable adopted Fire Code.
I believe the above section for Automatic Fire protection is the only one that needs to be change. Otherwise I support the other changed to Chapter 6 of the Land Development Code.

Thank you for letting me be a part of the review process.

Mark A Stanwood
Fire Marshal
Ellicott Fire Protection District
Stratmoor Hills Fire Protection District
Tri-County Fire Protection District
719-360-0578
10/20/2020 9:31:14 AM
Stratmoor HIlls Fire Department
10/20/2020 9:29:12 AM
I have reviewed the revised Chapter 6 of the El Paso County Land Development Code and discussed my previous comments with Nina Ruiz. At this time I do not have and objections with the revised land development code changes. I do have some comments and notes from our discussion.

Definition-

The definition of Fire Authority: The way it is revised does not change the way the code is used or interpreted. We did discuss that the Fire Authority Having Jurisdiction (AHJ) is a commonly used term and definition. It is suggested that this term and definition be considered for future revisions. However, whether or not this was use as the definition would not change the intent of the land development code.

6.3.3 Fire Protection and Wildfire Mitigation
A(3) Relationship to Other Standards.

This section seamed to put the codes at odds. However, after review this section seeks alternatives from the Fire Authority and recommendations if such alternatives meet the intent of Chapter 6 of the Land Development Code and the Fire Code. Per our conversation this section does not diminish the authority of the Fire District or Fire Chief under C.R.S. 32-1-1002.

6.3.3 Fire Protection and Wildfire Mitigation
A(4) Responsibility of Fire Authority.

“It is the responsibility of the Fire Authority to provide recommendations as to whether a new development meets the applicable fire code standards for the respective area.”

I agree with this section. The next section is also correct however, it may not be how we practice the implementation of the code.

“If a new development does not meet the applicable standards, then the fire authority should provide comments regarding areas of non-compliance and recommendations for achieving compliance.”

I believe that the developer should also be given the option of how to meet the intent of the code through alternative design. If unable or unwilling to do so then the Fire Authority would make recommendations on how to meet the intent of the code. There should be some agreement prior to approval by the Board of County Commissioners. This is simply a difference in how we use the code to ensure compliance. This meets the general intent of both codes however we may look at revising this in the future.

6.3.3 Fire Protection and Wildfire Mitigation
C Design Standard
(1)Water Supply
(b) Automatic Fire Protection

This is the only section we discussed that requires a change. It should read:

Automatic Fire Protection shall be in compliance with the adopted PPRBD Regional Building Code and/or applicable adopted Fire Code.
I believe the above section for Automatic Fire protection is the only one that needs to be change. Otherwise I support the other changed to Chapter 6 of the Land Development Code.

Thank you for letting me be a part of the review process.

Mark A Stanwood
Fire Marshal
Ellicott Fire Protection District
Stratmoor Hills Fire Protection District
Tri-County Fire Protection District
719-360-0578
10/20/2020 9:29:12 AM
Colorado Springs Public Works
10/19/2020 2:17:39 PM
EDRD has no comments on this item.

Patrick V. Morris
Civil Engineer II
Public Works/Engineering Development Review
City of Colorado Springs
30 S. Nevada Ave., Suite 401
Colorado Springs, CO 80903
tel: 719-385-5075
Main: 719-385-5979
patrick.morris@coloradosprings.gov
10/19/2020 2:17:39 PM
Fountain
10/12/2020 11:28:52 AM
No additional comments per the Fountain Fire Department. 10/12/2020 11:28:52 AM
USAFA Base Planner
10/8/2020 11:53:42 AM
Thank you for the opportunity to review. USAFA does not have any additional comments or concerns. 10/8/2020 11:53:42 AM
Cimarron Hills Fire
10/8/2020 8:28:57 AM
Land Development Code, Fire Protection Revision looks good and I have no further comments at this time. I would like to attend further meetings and show support for this Code Revision. JT McLeod Division Chief Fire and Life Safety, CHFD. 10/8/2020 8:28:57 AM
Schriever AFB
10/8/2020 7:58:34 AM
Schriever AFB has no issues or concerns. 10/8/2020 7:58:34 AM
View Colorado Department of Transportation - Pueblo Office
10/7/2020 5:22:37 PM
10/7/2020 5:22:37 PM
Pikes Peak Regional Building Department
8/17/2020 8:06:30 AM
No comment 8/17/2020 8:06:30 AM
Tri-Lakes-Monument Fire Protection District
8/13/2020 11:28:46 AM
No additional comments to the ones previously submitted about seeking clarification as to who the actual Authroirty having jurisdiction will be. JCB 8/13/2020 11:28:46 AM
County Attorney - Development Review
8/13/2020 9:32:55 AM
County Attorney's Office will work with staff outside the eDARP process to review and finalize drafts. 8/13/2020 9:32:55 AM
Woodmen Hills Metro
8/12/2020 4:41:23 PM
Woodmen Hills Metropolitan District objects to (C) Design Standards (1) Water Supply (c) Areas with Central Water Systems (ii) Dead end mains shall not exceed 600 feet in length for main sizes less that 10 inches in diameter. 8/12/2020 4:41:23 PM
View Falcon Fire Protection District
8/11/2020 2:31:47 PM
8/11/2020 2:31:47 PM
Colorado Springs Public Works
8/11/2020 9:10:52 AM
City SWENT has no comments.


Anna Bergmark
Stormwater Enterprise
City of Colorado Springs
30 S. Nevada Ave., Suite 401
Colorado Springs, CO 80901
(719) 385-5613 office
(719) 619-9427 Cell
Anna.Bergmark@coloradosprings.gov
8/11/2020 9:10:52 AM
Colorado Springs Public Works
8/10/2020 10:37:08 AM
Engineering Development Review Division has no comments

Patrick V. Morris
Civil Engineer II
Public Works/Engineering Development Review
City of Colorado Springs
30 S. Nevada Ave., Suite 401
Colorado Springs, CO 80903
tel: 719-385-5075
Main: 719-385-5979
patrick.morris@coloradosprings.gov
8/10/2020 10:37:08 AM
Stratmoor HIlls Fire Department
8/8/2020 9:43:54 AM
The Stratmoor Hills Fire Protection District Objects to the revisions to the Land Development Code Section 6.3.3 Fire Protection and Wildfire Mitigation. The Stratmoor Hills Fire Protection District firmly believes that Section 6.3.3 Fire Protection and Wildfire Mitigation does not apply to a Fire District with an adopted Fire Code approved by the El Paso County Commissioners. The Stratmoor Hills Fire District has adopted the 2009 Intentional Fire Code with local amendments, which has been approved by the El Paso County Board of County Commissioners. This adoption and approval makes the code a law equal to the Land development code. However the state statute CRS 32-1-1002 makes the authority, responsibility and enforcement of the code a state law once approved by the Board of County Commissioners. The International Fire Code is more stringent and detailed that the Section 6.3.3 Fire Protection and wildfire Mitigation. The Stratmoor Hills Fire Protection District Intends on continuing to use the International Fire Code as an enforceable law. This being said we do believe the that Section 6.3.3 Fire Protection and Wildfire Mitigation is an important section for Fire Protection Districts without an adopted Fire Code. Please keep us informed of any future meetings or hearings related to this matter. See attached.

Mark Stanwood
Fire Marshal
Stratmoor hills Fire Protection District
719-360-0578
markstanwood32@gmail.com
8/8/2020 9:43:54 AM
View Stratmoor HIlls Fire Department
8/8/2020 9:18:04 AM
8/8/2020 9:18:04 AM
View Stratmoor HIlls Fire Department
8/8/2020 9:17:37 AM
8/8/2020 9:17:37 AM
Ellicott Fire Protection District
8/6/2020 8:59:35 PM
The Ellicott Fire Protection District objects to the purposed changes to the Land development Code Section 6.3.3, Fire Protection and Wildfire Mitigation as submitted. The basis of the changes were to remove the term Fire Marshal and replace with Fire Authority. However, the changes went far beyond simply changing the titles. First of all we believe the section Fire Protection does not apply to a Fire Protection District with an adopted Fire Code approved by the El Paso County Board of County Commissioners. However, this code is extremely important to Fire Districts without an adopted Fire Code. Per State law Fire Districts can enforce local laws pertaining to Fire Protection. The Ellicott Fire Protection District currently does not have and adopted fire code. Even with this code in-place here have been developments approved that did not conform to this code. Example a large commercial dog rescue and kennel complex without fire protection water supply. A urban/suburban development change to a PUC with residential (6,000 SQ FT) lots with 3.5 FT side set backs. This is in an area surrounded by large lots with the smallest nearby being 5 acres. The purposed hundreds of lots are in a rural volunteer fire district locate 15 miles outside of Colorado Springs. This development extremely exceeds the capabilities of the Fire Department and should never have been approved. However, we are working with the developer to make it work. Another Residential development we required a single 30,000 gallon Cistern. we have heard the developer is proceeding with the project without a Cistern and no fire protection water supply. These are just examples of how this code has not worked very well for us so far. So we have decided to adopt the 2015 International Fire code and are currently going through the approval process. I have attached a red-line version of our purposed changes to the Land Development Code Section 6.3.3 and a second document with comments. Please see attachments. We believe there needs to be more discussion on this topic. However, we request to be informed of any public hearings related to these changes. Thank you.

Mark Stanwood
Fire Marshal
Division Chief of Fire
Ellicott Fire Department
markstanwood32@gmail.com
719-360-0578
8/6/2020 8:59:35 PM
View Ellicott Fire Protection District
8/6/2020 8:24:10 PM
8/6/2020 8:24:10 PM
View Ellicott Fire Protection District
8/6/2020 8:23:43 PM
8/6/2020 8:23:43 PM
Academy SD 20 Building Fund
8/5/2020 7:45:06 AM
Academy District 20 is in receipt of file number LDC201.

The District has no comment regarding the proposed changes.

Don Smith
Planning Consultant
8/5/2020 7:45:06 AM
Woodmoor Water and Sanitation District
8/3/2020 5:37:04 PM
6.3.3.C.c: Item (ii) seems to conflict with item (v). For clarification on dead-end mains, is it that a 6" dead-end pipe cannot exceed 300 ft, an 8" dead-end pipe cannot exceed 600 ft, and no pipe less than 10" in diameter can exceed 600 ft on a dead-end main?

For reference:

ii. Dead-End Mains. Dead-end mains shall not exceed 600 feet in length for main sizes less than 10 inches in diameter.

v. Fire Hydrant Supply Lines. Fire hydrants shall be supplied by not less than a 6 inch diameter main installed on a looped system, or by not less than an 8 inch diameter main if the system is not looped or the fire hydrant is installed on a dead-end main exceeding 300 feet in length.
8/3/2020 5:37:04 PM
Northern EPC Coalition of Community Organizations, Inc. (NEPCO)
8/3/2020 11:51:44 AM
Section 6.3.3. uses the term “approval authority” 12 times in its revision, yet it does not define who the approval authority is.

Under the Land Development Code, Section 1.15 Definitions: Approval Authority -- The PCD Director, the BoCC, Planning Commission, Board of Adjustment, El Paso County Engineering Criteria Manual (ECM) Administrator, Building Official, or other person or agency, depending on the type of development permit or decision specified by State Statute or this Code, sanctioned to make a final decision approving, denying or conditionally approving the development permit or other requested action.

Therefore, what person/position is specified by State Statute or this Code and sanctioned to make a final decision approving, denying or conditionally approving the 12 decisions in Section 6.3.3.? Thank you.
8/3/2020 11:51:44 AM
Black Forest Land Use Committee
7/30/2020 6:38:00 AM
I believe this is a duplicate in EDARP. The Black Forest Land Use Committee has no comments. 7/30/2020 6:38:00 AM
Black Forest Land Use Committee
7/30/2020 6:36:48 AM
The Black Forest Land Use Committee has no comments or recommended changes. 7/30/2020 6:36:48 AM
Schriever AFB
7/28/2020 1:45:46 PM
Schriever AFB has no issues or comments. 7/28/2020 1:45:46 PM
Fountain
7/28/2020 1:27:33 PM
No comments. The Fountain Fire Inspector had previously reviewed the documents and those comments have been incorporated into this document. 7/28/2020 1:27:33 PM
Fountain
7/28/2020 1:25:29 PM
No comments. The Fountain Fire Inspector had previously reviewed the documents and those comments have been incorporated into this document. 7/28/2020 1:25:29 PM
The Glen Metro Districts (1 - 3)
7/27/2020 2:58:47 PM
No comment 7/27/2020 2:58:47 PM
Colorado Springs Public Works
7/27/2020 1:36:25 PM
Traffic Engineering has no comments on this item.

Zaker Alazzeh, P.E.
Traffic Engineering Manager
City of Colorado Springs
(719) 385-5468
Zaker.Alazzeh@coloradosprings.gov
7/27/2020 1:36:25 PM
El Paso County Conservation Dist
7/27/2020 11:06:33 AM
The El Paso County Conservation District board of supervisors have no comments at this time.
Thank you,
Ken Barker
Board President
7/27/2020 11:06:33 AM
El Paso County Conservation Dist
7/27/2020 10:53:26 AM
The El Paso County Conservation District board of supervisors have no comment at this time.
Thank you,
Ken Barker
Board President
7/27/2020 10:53:26 AM
View Colorado Springs Fire Department
7/23/2020 1:08:18 PM
See attached document for comments. 7/23/2020 1:08:18 PM
View Colorado Springs Fire Department
7/23/2020 1:05:54 PM
See attached document for comments. 7/23/2020 1:05:54 PM
Cimarron Hills Fire
7/22/2020 1:08:20 PM
Document and changes look good. I would maybe consider using "Authority Having Jurisdiction" rather than Fire Authority. "Fire Authority" could be considered a different version of a "Fire District." Otherwise everything looks good and we are already following this as a Fire Protection District.

J.T. McLeod
Division Chief of Fire Prevention, CHFD
Fire Inspector III-Plan Examiner
7/22/2020 1:08:20 PM
Academy SD 20 Building Fund
7/22/2020 7:27:44 AM
Academy School district is in receipt of file number LDC201. The district has no comment regarding the proposed revisions.

Don Smith
Planning Consultant
7/22/2020 7:27:44 AM
Colorado Springs Utilities, Dev, Svc.(includes water resources)
7/21/2020 1:39:57 PM
Colorado Springs Utilities has no comment on the attached documents. Review request should be sent to Colorado Springs Fire Department for any objections or comments.
-Kyle Schelhaas, 719-668-8126, kschelhaas@csu.org
7/21/2020 1:39:57 PM
Colorado Springs Utilities, Dev, Svc.(includes water resources)
7/21/2020 1:39:37 PM
Colorado Springs Utilities has no comment on the attached documents. Review request should be sent to Colorado Springs Fire Department for any objections or comments.
-Kyle Schelhaas, 719-668-8126, kschelhaas@csu.org
7/21/2020 1:39:37 PM